Curse

Francis Crawford · Mar 13, 2006, 09:26 AM // 09:26

I don't understand the logic of the complaints. Shells just went UP in value by a substantial amount.

dont feel no pain · Mar 13, 2006, 03:35 PM // 15:35

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Originally Posted by Zui

Well, on gold drops -3 hexed has always been possible. Fairly sure -3 stance and -3 enchant have also been possible, however I have not personaly gotten one, so I cannot verify it.

ok i'll give sheild info

everyone of these stats are max
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+60 health (while hexed)
+45 health (while enchated)
+45 (stance) <-- only on pvp sheilds , collectors sheild , grognars sheild
+30 (stance) on gold pve sheilds
+30 always
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-2 (enchanted)
-5 (20% chance)
-2 (stance)
-3 (while hexed)
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quick recovery from ...dazed, crippled, bleeding, poisen , disease, deep wound, weakness.
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armor +8 vs all types of pshyical dmg and ele dmg (cold attacks , slashing dng , blunt dmg, pericing dmg, fire , lightning dmg ...............
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+1 (attribute) (20% chance)
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sheilds can have 2 out of all these , but cannot combo these below

+health
+ health

quick recovery from....
quick recovery from....

+ armor
+armor

+ attirbute
+ attirbtue
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the only ones it can combo is dmg reduction , these do exist

-2 (stance) -2 (enchanted)

-2 (enchanted) -3 (while hexed)

-2 (stance) -3(while hexed)

-2 (stance) -5 (20% chance)

-2 (while enchanted) -5 (20% chance)
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you can pretty much have combinations with seperate types in al lways but there will only be 2 at max.

Weeping Wind · Mar 14, 2006, 01:22 PM // 13:22

Nice one ANet! Just as people where catching onto Wurm farming they knock it on the head. It will sure make a dent the other direction for farming

*That will teach them SHEEP!*

Weeping

lyra_song · Mar 14, 2006, 09:03 PM // 21:03

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Originally Posted by kc99

This should actually increase sales of shells now!
More peeps are likely to part with 2k than 5k, Whadda ya think?

I agree actually

Linsys · Mar 14, 2006, 11:20 PM // 23:20

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Originally Posted by IIIPowerIII

When ppl will see the difference... Victo Require STR and collector require Tactic!!! That a big difference... We finally got 1 Str shield collector, the 60hp/-3dam Hexed. I only want one for Stance now...

With this patch they boosted Gold shield in stance to 45hp? before it was +30. Only hexed/enchanted was able to hit 45hp.

No, 45hp has ALWAYS been the max for "in stance"

beepbeep · Mar 15, 2006, 05:28 AM // 05:28

-3 stance or enchanted was never possible, if it was they would have had to of made a the green shields with this mod, because they are supposed to be "perfect"

Poison Ivy · Mar 15, 2006, 05:36 AM // 05:36

Ha, death to the Shell Famers!

*flees*

Grinder · Mar 15, 2006, 06:58 AM // 06:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francis Crawford

I don't understand the logic of the complaints. Shells just went UP in value by a substantial amount.

^

2.5k per shell FTW

Doull · Mar 15, 2006, 05:23 PM // 17:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francis Crawford

I don't understand the logic of the complaints. Shells just went UP in value by a substantial amount.

Personallly I think this reduces the value of shells. The price of the Crimson Carapace shield is not fixed by anything other than its difficulty to get.

The shields now take less effort to get so they will fall in price, thus the components fall in price. Further farmers of shells who believe as I do will unload their stock and supply will outstrip demand.

Time is our ony resource here, if singed gargoyle skillls got you the shield they wouldnt fetch a plat because anyone could get them for themselves.

Presumably wurm farming is considered bot-able, although I guess that the shield wa sthe most expensive collectors item and the change brings it into line. It's a shame in a way as I really enjoyed struggling to get my first carapace shield (rather than shelling* out 5k for it), but then I guess the clever anti-wurm builds have already changed the landscape there.

* No pun intended, honestly I shell you not

Former Ruling · Mar 15, 2006, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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Originally Posted by Doull

Personallly I think this reduces the value of shells. The price of the Crimson Carapace shield is not fixed by anything other than its difficulty to get.

The shields now take less effort to get so they will fall in price, thus the components fall in price. Further farmers of shells who believe as I do will unload their stock and supply will outstrip demand.

Time is our ony resource here, if singed gargoyle skillls got you the shield they wouldnt fetch a plat because anyone could get them for themselves.

Presumably wurm farming is considered bot-able, although I guess that the shield wa sthe most expensive collectors item and the change brings it into line. It's a shame in a way as I really enjoyed struggling to get my first carapace shield (rather than shelling* out 5k for it), but then I guess the clever anti-wurm builds have already changed the landscape there.

* No pun intended, honestly I shell you not

Shells have had a rather weird increase in price.

Why? My Guess? Wurm Farmers probably stopped because they weren't making as many sells fast enough, which decreases the amount being sold on the market, and the few that luckily got a shell or two are holding them to higher prices to match the per shield purchase earnings they would have gotten before.

Basically temporarly making 2 shells worth as much as 5 shells were worth.

Wont last long though (might be back down by today...haven't logged in)

HawkofStorms · Mar 15, 2006, 11:44 PM // 23:44

Thank god. I can finally get a 20/20 collector air staff w/o having to pay 5k for one

stickyballs · Mar 15, 2006, 11:58 PM // 23:58

Now, we are going to see an influx of Crimson Carapace Shields. People will probably now get it, as it is like 40% of original price. I wonder if in this process they made shells even rarer drops...

Star Alfur · Mar 16, 2006, 12:40 AM // 00:40

Blaarg · Mar 16, 2006, 03:32 AM // 03:32

^ That's from after the update, you couldn't get a gold shield with more than +30 hp in stance before. But that has been changed and now you can find up to +45 hp in stance on gold items.

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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

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armor +8 vs all types of pshyical dmg and ele dmg (cold attacks , slashing dng , blunt dmg, pericing dmg, fire , lightning dmg ...............
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This is actually up to atleast +10 armor now.

Francis Crawford · Mar 16, 2006, 04:32 AM // 04:32

For shells to go down below 1K in value, the price of the shield has to drop below 2K.

That's not inconceivable, but it would be odd.

Soul Torn · Mar 16, 2006, 08:30 PM // 20:30

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Originally Posted by Blaarg

^ That's from after the update, you couldn't get a gold shield with more than +30 hp in stance before. But that has been changed and now you can find up to +45 hp in stance on gold items.

This is actually up to atleast +10 armor now.

Ok for the last time (no offense) the max has ALWAYS been +45hp in stance. I have been using this shield since I started gw and its been the same the whole time. Same with gold shields. The +30 is the max for UNCONDITIONAL meaning always.

This has been around for a while and people are getting the wrong information.

Jetdoc · Mar 16, 2006, 08:33 PM // 20:33

Anyone know if the collector inside Amnoon still needs 5 shells for the armor?

Lambentviper · Mar 17, 2006, 12:53 AM // 00:53

damnit...just when i got done farming for 8 hours total, getting 2 shells, thenm paying 3k for 3 more. grrrr.

But i'd like a max one. That would mean that ANet would have to nerf alot of farming as the extra health and -3 dmg will only make it easier to do certain IDS runs.

LifeInfusion · Mar 17, 2006, 05:27 AM // 05:27

YAY. Now I can actually get weapons without killing myself with buying/killing wurms with full hench team.

TideSwayer · Mar 17, 2006, 10:20 AM // 10:20

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

Anyone know if the collector inside Amnoon still needs 5 shells for the armor?

Down to 2 as well.